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hmmm
14-04-07, 12:12 PM
aslaam w3lakom

a friend of mine has found the man of her dreamz but there one MAJOR problem.... he told her that hes muslim however he "displays" he is christian bcoz the government is after him coz they suspect he is linked with terrorist acts. He told her if they were2 get married they would also have to get married te christian way & their kids would have to be baptised so the government would wont find out he is muslim. He says if they find out he is muslim he would 100% be put into jail coz many ppl have said that he is linked to al-kadr. she knows that its not tru but what should a true muslim do in a situation like this?

thanxs alot 4 listening, i advised her to do istaqara but she didn't feel or see anything

khadijah
14-04-07, 04:15 PM
assalamu alaykum

wow subhaan ALLAH in my opinion stay right away... for heaps of reasons. i mean does she really want to live like a non muslim.
save the heartache.
wait for the counsellor to reply but i think she would be crazy to marry him....

salams

Rassila
15-04-07, 12:11 AM
Assalam alaikum,


i advised her to do istaqara but she didn't feel or see anything

Tell her to try istikhara more than once.. at least 3 times, maybe then inshallah Allahu swt will guide her.
remember: do not underestimate the power of dua

inshallah ya rab khair

ws wr wb
RaS

Expired
15-04-07, 12:29 AM
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remember: do not underestimate the power of dua

Just wanted to add "Du`a (prayer) is the weapon of the believer, and the pillar of faith, and the light of the heavens and the earth." ...

Allah says in the Quran, "And your lord said pray to me, I will respond to your invocations." (90:60).

Inshallah the counsellor will be able to provide you with some solid advice :)


:wa:

hmmm
19-04-07, 07:21 PM
she's running away with him next week so if some can PLZZ reply soon would be great. i dnt know what to say to her. its soooo stressing :vsad: :(

khadijah
20-04-07, 12:15 AM
assalamu alaykum

does ur friend want to be muslim does she believe in her religion, then how can she want to live as a kaffur, it doesnt make sense, not only that but if this guy is telling the truth why would she want to be followed and and watching every step she takes for her whole life, is she was already married this could be a different scenario but shes not, dont get involved tell her shes crazy to start something off that will end in tears .....

people try and avoid trouble why is she running to it maybe theres a more personal reason maybe you need to tell her that she has you as support and doesnt need this man in her life ..

sorry i hope someone replies soon

salams

Expired
20-04-07, 11:04 AM
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Personally I would be a little sus about this guy. The story seems so very far fetched. Is this something he has made up and if not then what kind of muslim is he to basically not onlt live as a kufr, BUT to also want to raise his kids as one.

Subhanallah when I think back to what Bilal (ra) went thru when he was asked to renounce Islam, large boulders were placed on his chest when he would refuse and everytime he would say " La Ilaha IlAllah " a heavier larger boulder was placed on his chest. AND he never ever renounced Islam.

He had true Imam, he believed and put all his trust in Allah (swt).

He was not renouncing Islam for ANYONE. He was not going to even say I am not muslim as to avoid hardship & pain.

This is where times have changed, we have gone from times where people were proud to call themselves muslims and would do anything in their power to protect and stand up for Islam and their right to be muslim and pratcise Islam to a time where brothers and sisters are turning away from Islam and living their lives as kafurs.

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It is beyond me why a muslim girl would want to be with someone who does not want to be seen practising his deen... NO matter wat the circumatsnaces.

I would be teling to her find out the truth about this guy beofre she gets herself into something she cant get out of...

Also if this story is true she can be implemented into watever trouble she has got herself into ( ie accessory to the fact ).

And where are her parents in all this ?????

When will we wake up ? :(

:wa:

P.S I pray that Allah shows this girl the errors in her way, opens her eyes and gets her back on the true path of Islam Ameen.

24-04-07, 06:05 PM
sister

personally i would talk to her mind not her heart, this whole thing seems fishy and not right

tell her there are plenty of muslims out there, specially ones that dont fear being muslim

Hmmm
26-04-07, 08:26 PM
she's leaving 2moro morning!! :( :( :( :(

i feel so uselesss!!! :help: :help: :help: :help: :help:

khadijah
26-04-07, 09:01 PM
assalam alaykum

call ur local shiekh tell her parents letting her go would be the biggest mistake tell her family or your family honestly shes asking for trouble...
we will all pray for her inshallah

salams

Rassila
26-04-07, 09:52 PM
Assalam alaikum,

You could call sheik chami - 9740 6102

or also the Lakemba mosque - 9759 8149

Shiekh Taj Al-Din Hilali
Mufti of Australia & New Zealand
Da'wah & Fatwa Office
Phone: (02) 9758 9001

Availability:
Monday - Thursday
10am - 2pm


Shiekh Yahya Safi
Imam of Lakemba Mosque
Australian Representative of Dar ul Fatwa of Lebanon
Email: info@yahyasafi.com
Phone: (02) 9750 0380

Availability:
Monday, Wednesday & Thursday
9am - 1pm

Shiekh Bassam Alameddine
Assistant Shiekh
Phone: (02) 9750 6833

Availability:
Monday - Thursday
11am - 4pm


Shiekh Shady Al-Suleiman
Youth Representative
Email: shady@uma.org.au
Phone: 0414 767 628

Inshallah you will be able to get an answer asap.

ws wr wb
RaS

Expired
26-04-07, 09:53 PM
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I would tell her parents and if you cant do it with the fear that they would not listen to you then ask your parents to call her parents. U cant just stand back and watch this girl make the biggest mistake of her life.

Do watever you can, even if it means loosing her as a friend for the time being, inshallah in the long run she will see you only did what was best for her, to protect her.

This is a massive step she is taking and she doesnt realise what she is getting into, she needs to be stopped.

May Allah be with you and get ur friend out of this situation.

:wa:

Expired
28-04-07, 04:36 PM
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Just wondering how things ended up ?

Inshallah all is well

:wa:

hmmm
09-08-07, 10:34 PM
Sorry took me forever to get back to you..

well she did end up going with him - spent the whole day with him & lets just say she did something that she deeply regrets... she came back home crying - alhmduilah she finally woke up.

But shes going through really bad depression... this "muslim" man wasnt really muslim.. even though he said he was.. he told her we all belive in god thats all that matters....

I just don't want anybody to go down that road - wallahe its the worst ever... its emotionally draining & its just sooo, i dont know what word can describe this situation

I would hate for any other of my muslim sisters to be fooled by this whole boyfriend thing... If a guy tells you i love you, please ( im crying when im saying this) Do not Sleep with them UNTIL you are married... Words mean NOTHING!!! you hear so many true real life stories & wallah it really makes you think... but i really don't know whats happening to the world these days..

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Ehsan
10-08-07, 02:22 AM
Unfortunately "love" these days makes u do so many sins, this sounds harsh to say but i think if you advised her not to go with this non muslim - and she still did not listen then its her own fault. It was clear from the initial post this man was not behaving in an islamic way whatsoever, and she still continued with him.

its a painful lesson to learn, but inshallah the lesson is now learnt. She must change her ways to prevent such a thing happening again. Take it from a man, theres plenty of people like him from where he came from just waiting to take advantage of sisters.

All is not lost, these things changes people for the better inshallah and perhaps this was the only way she could understand. Make dua for her and press for an Islamic way of life with her.

May allah guide us and forgive us all ameen.

Expired
10-08-07, 08:53 AM
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Thanks for getting back to us sister, I am sorry to hear the way things worked out, but a hard lesson has been learnt.


But shes going through really bad depression...

Maybe you could suggest that she sees a professional about this, even a school counselllor ?


this "Muslim" man wasnt really Muslim.. even though he said he was.. he told her we all belive in god thats all that matters....

Thats the impression I got from your original post, hence why I said it all sounded a little sus.

Alhumdulillah for one thing though... that she was able to see all of this before she took the step and married this guy. I pray that Allah eases this sisters guilt and allows her to pull herself up from this state of depression.



Unfortunately "love" these days makes u do so many sins.

Its not only love but the thought of love, and it is really easy for someone to say "I love you" to get what they want. This is a problem amongst young women, they hear these words and fall and will submit to anything the guy wanted simply because he said " I love you."

This kind of love isnt true love, even though you might think it is at 14.15,16,17,18 etc but when your older and look back to your teenage years you realise that it wasnt true love.


Take it from a man, theres plenty of people like him from where he came from just waiting to take advantage of sisters.

Sad reality innit ? :( men using women for their own personal needs and satisfaction, with no real concern for the girl/woman.


May Allah guide us and forgive us all ameen.

Ameen

:wa:

10-08-07, 10:01 AM
if theres non muslims reading this , im sure you would then feel that the shariah punishment for this man would have been perfectly justified than western terms .. oh but in western society it was consesual sex therefore "ok". He gets away scott free.

Ehsan
10-08-07, 11:13 AM
Ps dunno why it came as a guest but i wrote that :$

MrWarraEnib
12-08-07, 11:03 PM
very sad to read :( .... inshallah the sister repents and ask for forgiveness sincerely...

walla its so sad to hear stories like this!!!!

™Repenter™
12-08-07, 11:50 PM
Subhallah!, indeed very sad to read this :vsad:

So in other words They put the Gov people in front of Allah, this could be a trial for him to take... Allahu Must'an

And Allah knows best :mrgreen:

Inshallah! things get sorted

:wa: