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06-05-07, 07:10 PM
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This topic comes close to home as a young family member was witness to a stabbing at their local primary school.
A young boy in year 6 decided he would take it upon himself to bring a typical boys arugement to the next level when he brought a pocket knife to school and sliced open the arm of a younger boy in the playground.
When I heard about this I was dicussing it with my children when one my kids said "oh mum there was a boy in my class who brought a butchers knife to school"
What is the world coming to ?
Since when do children need to go to these extremes ?
Not only that but the punishment the first boy recieved was a 3 week suspension. And the other at my childs school got nothing more than a warning....
To me this is totally unacceptable as suspension to kids these days means a couple of weeks at home in front of the tv !! This boy stabbed another boy and his punishment ( well more like reward is 3 weeks at home )
Doesnt this show that there is something really wrong with the system ?
Imagine your child/ or lil bro or sister going to school ( that is supposed to b safe ) and recieving a phone call to say that he/she had been stabbed ?
Many kids these days posess little to no respect for their elders, their peers or other peoples property.
I remember back when I was at school we had the cane and we would be so fearful that we would get the cane we would not even think of messing around and disrespecting the teachers.. let alone bring a weapon to school.
I wonder in a few years if "pocket knives" and "butcher knives" will be replaced with other forms of harder weapons ?
I really never thought that Australian schools will get to this level, things like this u only see on tv and that occurs in other countries like the USA.
How do we stop this level of violence coming into our primary schools ?
How can we ever be sure that our kids are safe at school ?
*Sighs... indeed how times have changed. :(
I would really love to see other peoples opinions about this
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under_cover
06-05-07, 09:04 PM
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these things make me speechless wallahiii...
things have come to an obvious extreme... where are the parents? where is the guidance?.. where is the responsibility!
Seriously! :shock:
It's really saddening, because public schools are a wide option for so many families. This is only a primary school case, let alone what might go around in a public high school :shock: !
well i gues concerned parents should get together and speak out. Usually the last thing a school will want is students out of it and a bad reputation.
But you see... can a school realy do much if a child isn't initially rased properly from home?
parents.. knock knock!!
May Allah protect the children of this ummah and guide us all the the straight path, ameen.
Mo3tasem
06-05-07, 11:06 PM
whoaahhh!!!!!
:yikes:
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parents.. knock knock!!
BANG! BANG!
khadijah
07-05-07, 02:40 PM
assalamu alaykum
it really is frightening isnt it i mean even if you raise your child the right way there is still a chance they will fold to peer pressure, i think ultimately responsibility lies with the parents but the children spend majority of their week at school with other children from different homelives.
my son started kindy this year and from the first week he and other students were being bullied by a child in his class, i mean these kids are 5 and 6 just imagine what they will be like by the time they reach highschool.
something does need to be done i think there is alot of emphasis on safety houses and things but what a violence they should have talks in schools to show kids that violence is a BIG NO NO !!!
either that or stop idiots from having kids :)
hmm just a thought
salams
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07-05-07, 03:03 PM
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well i gues concerned parents should get together and speak out.
That was done and a few weeks ago we were offered a 3hr counselling/lecture session about bullying.
For the kids = nothing...
or stop idiots from having kids :)
LOL !! I so needed that laugh today... But I have to say I agree with you.
The thing is many parents believe once the kid goes to school their job is over n done with....
well heres a lil wake up call.........it NEVER ends !!
Once u have a child u have responisbilty until the day u die.
My daughter was bullied by the same boy for 2 years and numerous trips to school did nothing until the day he grabbed my daughter that hard he nearly broke her arm... he didnt just stop at my eldest daughter he also had started on my 2nd daughter from the day she started school.
When I spoke to the principal he told me " the father is the same, when we called him to come up to the school about this issue he threatened us with violence"
Now.... I wonder where the kid was learning it from :confused:
( sarcasitic tone up there :oops: )
Because of this one kid my girls first few yrs at school were filled with fear.
I have to admit I a great joy came over me the day he was finally expelled some 2 yrs after it started.
Parents need to do more and talk more to the kids about these issues.
Education begins at home right ?
*sighs *
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CRANK-SHAFT
11-05-07, 07:47 PM
yes indeed
some of the events in schools around the world are apalling
Even turning on the TV these days makes one feel like the end is near
la hawla wala quwwata illa billa
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12-05-07, 08:26 PM
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Even turning on the TV these days makes one feel like the end is near
Indeed it does and also when u look at the events taking place around the world not just with the people but also with the environment it really does make one stand back and ask.. how much longer can we continue in the way we are, and how obvious it is that the world is coming to its end.
May Allah allow us to wake up and follow Islam the right way it deserves to be followed b4 its to late.
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Mo3tasem
15-05-07, 09:23 PM
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Commenting on the issue of parents thinking it's the end of their job when their children enter school, is really happening. A relative of mne is a teacher, and has experienced this fact very often. Especially when the school has a reputation, theythink that it's just the answer to changing their children's attitude..
:help: what are we thinking?
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23-05-07, 01:15 PM
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12-year-old 'pulled replica gun on teacher'
A 12-year-old boy has been charged by police and suspended from a Western Sydney High School after allegedly threatening a teacher with a replica pistol.
The Year 7 student thought it was just "mucking around", according to newspaper reports, but he has been suspended for 20 days over the incident.
The boy allegedly pulled the realistic gun on a female teacher at Plumpton High School on Monday after being caught playing tackle football.
Staff called police to the school who seized the illegal replica and charged the boy with using a prohibited weapon and assault.
He will appear in Cobham Children's Court on June 12.
source (http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=268773)
If this doesnt scream out tougher measures are needed in schools I dont know what is.
Bring back the cane !!!
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khadijah
23-05-07, 01:26 PM
assalamu alaykum
dont forget to mention the two boys from crookhaven i think it was a country town near goulburn theyve been sent to pyschiatric ward because they were planning a school yard massacre had a list of who they wanted to target and discussed it online.
these kids r in yr 11. what a nightmare it makes u wanna wrap ur kids in cotton wool and keep locked in their rooms just to protect them. its shocking how bad people have become.
salams
sister18
23-05-07, 10:40 PM
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:shock: i reckon alot of this is because children are allowed way toooo much freedom, i mean i believe in personal freedom..but upto a certain degree, sooo many ppl i know havent a clue what their kids are doing!
:la: :(
salam
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25-05-07, 10:41 AM
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I dont think it is just because of too much freedom, I believe once discipline was made a no no not only in schools but also in the homes and kids were taught that their parents were not allowed to hit them, and if they did so they could call the police on their parents is the moment that parents lost control of their kids.
If u cant discipline and set down a set of rules that a child can follow then of course they are going to run wild.
Children now have the right to divorce their parents, all the power has been handed to the kids while the parents have none.
It is well known the rights of the child under this government and although in some cases it is needed where there is abuse in the family etc BUT should the minority outweigh the majority ?
The problem now is that anytime a parents want to discipline the kid wont accept it and either, run away and be supported by centrelink, call the cops on their parents or divorce em..
Its a joke.
I say give parents back their rights to raise their children the way they see fit.
As teens it may be harder to see where i am coming from but once u become parents you may just look back and think hey that sister unpredictable was right.
May Allah guide us all
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sister18
25-05-07, 09:42 PM
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:jazk: sis, may Allah reward you insha'Allah :happy:
Children now have the right to divorce their parents
:shock: no way! i heard of that...but neva thought it was true!
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how is that possible? does anyone know someone whose done that?
:la: what is happening to our world?....
:blink: salam
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