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Asalamu alaykum
Eating 100% halal is of vital importance to all Muslims. Alhumdulilah we have so many halal alternatives to "doubtful foods". In my opinion there is no subsititue for home made food. you know exactly what is in it without any doubts. What does everybody think?
NavPak.
22-03-10, 07:34 PM
Homemade food. :thumbsup2: (got to make sure the meat your getting is halal though!)
Ibn Malik
24-03-10, 11:41 PM
Salams all
It is interesting that in the Qur'an when Allah (swt) talks about food he mentions 2 qualities side by side. Halal ( lawful) and Tayib (pure). The food we eat might be halal but the question we should be asking is whether it is tayib. most of the processed foods we buy contain a number of colours, preservatives, artificial flavours from different sources ( sometimes animal). I definitely agree with home cooking.
Also in Surat Al kahf the first thing that the people of the Cave asked after their long sleep was to search for the "purist of foods" ( Azka ta'am). This is advise that we should all follow.
Wasalam
Muharrir
25-03-10, 01:42 AM
we need halal food at parramatta campus of uws nabeel bro u know any experts in the field ?
'Abiratu Sabil
25-03-10, 04:51 AM
I was at a bbq once and people were asking where the meat was from. The organiser said it was from a halal meat shop, then laughed saying "not all will agree with this type of halal though especially those who believe in the whole hand slaughtering thing." How many types of halal are there?
We should have knowledge about the ins and outs of this stuff.
It seems to go beyond just buying from a 'halal shop'. And apparently, we can eat 'kosher' too?
Covered Beauty
25-03-10, 09:09 PM
Salamz
we need halal food at parramatta campus of uws True. There's lots of Muslims over there. .Parra UWS Muslim Student Association has made a petition for Muslims to sign in order to get halal meat in Subway.. I saw it the other day in the Prayer room. Do you reckon it'll work? Did you sign it bro?
Salamz
Abu Abouk(GS4L)
25-03-10, 09:34 PM
Salams
Sis you go UWS?
I'v signed the petition. Also make sure to goto Subway and ask for halal food and when they say no walk out upset << another strategy been undertaken
we need halal food at parramatta campus of uws nabeel bro u know any experts in the field ?
Bro, which field are you referring to? distinguishing halal from haram, or delivering halal food to hungry uni students :mrgreen:
Covered Beauty
26-03-10, 12:04 AM
Salamz
Salams. Sis you go UWS? I've signed the petition. Also make sure to goto Subway and ask for halal food and when they say no walk out upset << another strategy been undertaken
Nah bro, I go Tafe remember:rolleyes:.. But I was up there on Tuesday catching up with friends and so yea got introduced to a couple of things happening over there.. Im guessing you go there now, you were at Tafe last year ay? Good on ya.. Yea I also read about that. Kheir inshAllah. Its just cool having subway over there! (PS. Vegie Delight eater)
Salamz
But even if one does have non-meat based sandwich at Subway - who is to say it hasn't been in contact with haraam items!?
salsabila
27-03-10, 09:09 PM
^exactly.
who knows if the person made something with pork and then made your food without washing their hands properly or something?
NavPak.
28-03-10, 12:47 AM
But even if one does have non-meat based sandwich at Subway - who is to say it hasn't been in contact with haraam items!?
yep agree with you there bro. when they're filling the buns up the other ingredients may drop into the other places and they prob just simply put it back wherever. who knows with them.
i've never eaten subway.. theres no halal ones in sydney is there?
~Sistahood~
28-03-10, 11:39 AM
But even if one does have non-meat based sandwich at Subway - who is to say it hasn't been in contact with haraam items!?
Yeah, thats why you ask the person serving you to change his/her gloves.
Beauty of the Religion
28-03-10, 05:34 PM
Can anyone guarantee that chicken salt is only herbal and has no meat derivatives?
Yeah, thats why you ask the person serving you to change his/her gloves.
1. I can see that causing some resentment.
2. What about the knife they cut the sub in half with at the end?
3. What about ingredients falling in with other ingredients?
I just think there's too many variables to trust it.
Allahu alim.
Beauty of the Religion
28-03-10, 10:07 PM
^ I agree. I guess we should just refrain from eating at non-Muslims. Just go with your mum's cooking ;)
Covered Beauty
28-03-10, 10:16 PM
Salamz
i've never eaten subway.. theres no halal ones in sydney is there? Yep there is sis. There's the one at Punchbowl and too brain dead now to remeber another place..
Salamz
^ I agree. I guess we should just refrain from eating at non-Muslims. Just go with your mum's cooking ;)
Brother - why not learn to cook yourself?
Trust me, it's so rewarding...And you know...Could work in your favour in the future. :hi 5:
I'm serious. :)
Brothers should know how to cook, I think.
I know I'd never let my sons marry until they are 100% independant (Including house work, cooking, cleaning, and all that!)
Also, as for refraining from eating at non-Muslims - I wouldn't say that's necessarily the case. :)
I know a brother, in Melbourne. He's a revert, of Chinese background. His parents aren't Muslim but are opening a Chinese restaurant (halal) soon. I can't wait to visit insha'Allah.
Covered Beauty
29-03-10, 03:28 PM
Salamz
Brother - why not learn to cook yourself?
Trust me, it's so rewarding...And you know...Could work in your favour in the future. :hi 5:
I'm serious. :)
Brothers should know how to cook, I think.
I know I'd never let my sons marry until they are 100% independant (Including house work, cooking, cleaning, and all that!)
Oh come on brother, what a question, its coz it reduces from a brothers manly-hood (sarcasm).. I like the idea you have in store for your sons:hi 5:
Salamz
NavPak.
29-03-10, 07:03 PM
I'm serious. :)
Brothers should know how to cook, I think.
Nice thinking bro :hi 5:
Yep there is sis. There's the one at Punchbowl and too brain dead now to remeber another place..
oh okay sis, jazakhallah kheir.. :)
Covered Beauty
29-03-10, 07:12 PM
Salamz
^ Wa iyaki hun
Salamz
Muharrir
03-04-10, 05:37 PM
Salamz
True. There's lots of Muslims over there. .Parra UWS Muslim Student Association has made a petition for Muslims to sign in order to get halal meat in Subway.. I saw it the other day in the Prayer room. Do you reckon it'll work? Did you sign it bro?
Salamz
haha this post is funnier than you could possibly imagine
alhamdulillah sister I did indeed sign this mysterious petition
Covered Beauty
03-04-10, 07:33 PM
Salamz
^ Why is my post funny, please share :) .. and why call the petition 'mysterious'?
Salamz
The Believer
04-04-10, 10:24 AM
:as:
i've never eaten subway.. theres no halal ones in sydney is there?
The subway in Auburn also serves halal chicken
Abu Abouk(GS4L)
04-04-10, 02:56 PM
Salamz
^ Why is my post funny, please share :) .. and why call the petition 'mysterious'?
Salamz
Salams
it because he is the president of UWSMSA
Abu Abouk(GS4L)
04-04-10, 02:59 PM
Just a point on brothers learning to cook.
I rekon most can and will if need be but can't be bothered
Covered Beauty
04-04-10, 06:45 PM
Salamz
Salams
it because he is the president of UWSMSA Oh ok then alhamdulilah. Thanks for letting me know.
Salamz
sister18
18-07-11, 10:05 PM
Nice discussion.. Anyone know how the petition went?
We need a petition at Sydney Uni, there are only two halal places on campuses. And for such a big uni, it's disappointing.
Covered Beauty
19-07-11, 12:24 AM
Salamz
^ Ya'll only have the Indian and Kebab place ay sis?
Salamz
Usud Al-Harb
19-07-11, 12:44 AM
everyone attention pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, thankyou
today i l;earnt something called Rennet (thanks to my Pakistani/Pashtun brother) that there is a ingredient in cheeses called rennent which is a enzyme from a stomach of a animal!!!, i love putting zartar with mozerella cheese in a sandwhich bread and eat it!!! but today i discovered all my cheeses have rennent (animal Enzyme) in it, so i chucked them all!!!!
went to a shop and bought cheese which have rennent but from a non-animal source!!!!
everyone please be careful!!!!
Salamz
^ Ya'll only have the Indian and Kebab place ay sis?
Salamz
Yeah, and never again would I go to that building where they are. So I pretty much eat at Broadway on a long day.
everyone attention pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, thankyou
today i l;earnt something called Rennet (thanks to my Pakistani/Pashtun brother) that there is a ingredient in cheeses called rennent which is a enzyme from a stomach of a animal!!!, i love putting zartar with mozerella cheese in a sandwhich bread and eat it!!! but today i discovered all my cheeses have rennent (animal Enzyme) in it, so i chucked them all!!!!
went to a shop and bought cheese which have rennent but from a non-animal source!!!!
everyone please be careful!!!!
Does it say if the rennent is from animal product on the package usually? Or no.
Covered Beauty
19-07-11, 12:52 AM
Salamz
Yeah, and never again would I go to that building where they are. So I pretty much eat at Broadway on a long day.
Why, whats wrong with the building sis? I've only been there once when I decided to stalk Yusha Evans to Sydney Uni.. I can't even remember what i had that day, but not indian for sure.. no offence to anyone.
Salamz
Salamz
Why, whats wrong with the building sis? I've only been there once when I decided to stalk Yusha Evans to Sydney Uni.. I can't even remember what i had that day, but not indian for sure.. no offence to anyone.
Salamz
You probably went to the Turkish place then (since there is only two Halal places. :P ). I'm not a big fan of Indian food (outside of the house), but I did try it there, and it was really good!
Abu Muhammad
19-07-11, 08:53 AM
everyone attention pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, thankyou
today i l;earnt something called Rennet (thanks to my Pakistani/Pashtun brother) that there is a ingredient in cheeses called rennent which is a enzyme from a stomach of a animal!!!, i love putting zartar with mozerella cheese in a sandwhich bread and eat it!!! but today i discovered all my cheeses have rennent (animal Enzyme) in it, so i chucked them all!!!!
went to a shop and bought cheese which have rennent but from a non-animal source!!!!
everyone please be careful!!!!
http://islamqa.com/en/ref/2841/rennet
Covered Beauty
19-07-11, 09:54 AM
Salamz
You probably went to the Turkish place then (since there is only two Halal places. :P ). I'm not a big fan of Indian food (outside of the house), but I did try it there, and it was really good!
Ya maybe I did.. and yea same..
Salamz
SMY-GYC
19-07-11, 01:49 PM
Yum Indian, I love the one darling harbour it's halal. That's the one I eat from
sister18
19-07-11, 07:46 PM
Does it say if the rennent is from animal product on the package usually? Or no.
Sometimes it does sis and as far as i have seen, not all cheese products contain rennet, Wa Allaahu A`lam.
Abu Muhammad
19-07-11, 09:40 PM
Okay, if none of you read the link I posted, it doesn't matter where the rennet comes from.
SMY-GYC
20-07-11, 01:46 AM
Not everyone is on ur opinion.
sister18
20-07-11, 03:05 AM
Okay, if none of you read the link I posted, it doesn't matter where the rennet comes from.
JazakAllaah for the summary.
Just wanted to mention for those who may follow a Madh-hab, that there maybe a difference of opinion from one Madh-hab to another so one should check it accordingly to the Madh-hab they take by.
Wa Allaahu A`lam.
Abu Muhammad
20-07-11, 11:19 AM
Not everyone is on ur opinion.
It is not my opinion, but the opinion of Imam Abu Haneefa, (one of the opinions of) Imam Ahmad and Sheikh ul Islam
The second view, which is that of Abu Haneefah and is one of two opinions narrated from Imaam Ahmad, is that rennet from dead animals or animals that were not slaughtered according to sharee'ah is still taahir (pure).
This is the opinion which Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah thought most correct in al-Fataawaa (21/102), where he said: "It is more likely that their (the Zoroastrians') cheese is halaal, and that the rennet and milk of dead animals is taahir (pure)." Elsewhere in al-Fataawaa (35/154) he said: "With regard to the cheese made with their (some of the kaafir Baatini groups') rennet, there are two well-known scholarly opinions, as is the case with the rennet from animals slaughtered by the Zoroastrians and Christians, and rennet from dead animals, of whom it is said that they do not slaughter their animals properly. The schools of Abu Haneefah and Ahmad, according to the other of his two opinions, say that this cheese is halaal, because the rennet taken from dead animals is taahir (pure), according to this view, and because the (enzymes in) rennet do not die when the animal dies (so, the concept "impure containers don't cause the contents of the container to become impure by contact" ) applies. The schools of Maalik, al-Shaafa'i and Ahmad, according to the other of his two opinions, state that this cheese is naajis (impure), because the rennet is impure according to this view, as they see the milk and rennet of dead animals as impure. In cases where meat is classified as impure because it is not slaughtered properly, the meat is regarded as being the same as dead meat. Both opinions are based on reports narrated from the Sahaabah. The first group states that the Sahaabah used to eat the cheese of the Zoroastrians, while the second group state that the Sahaabah used to eat what they thought was the cheese of the Christians. With regard to this issue, the follower (ordinary Muslim) must follow an 'aalim who advises him to follow either of these two opinions.
sister18
20-07-11, 02:00 PM
^That is true, i was told that opinion is taken by the ahnaaf.
Also brother i don't believe the sister meant it personally, i think she was merely stating that some others take another opinion to the one that you put up.
This is somewhat like the case of the Beacon Marshmallows...but with the issue of gelatine.
sister18
20-07-11, 02:02 PM
With regard to this issue, the follower (ordinary Muslim) must follow an 'aalim who advises him to follow either of these two opinions.
Very important point there^ Alhamdulillaah it was said.
HIJABismybeauty
20-07-11, 02:20 PM
Interesting Subhanallah.
ibnAffan
21-07-11, 06:14 PM
I yawned reading this thread. Abu Muhammad's post was refreshing though.
Abu Muhammad
21-07-11, 07:24 PM
I yawned reading this thread. Abu Muhammad's post was refreshing though.
BarakAllahu Feek :)
SMY-GYC
22-07-11, 01:31 AM
Thanx sis18 for clearing up!
sister18
22-07-11, 08:29 PM
Nws sis ;)
It happens.
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